Review of H-Sphere

[Kevin]

We're definitely aware that the WebShell file manager needs some love. There are some updates in the pipeline which should come with version 3.0 of H-Sphere. I'm hoping those will resolve the majority of issues. I don't know exactly how far off the release is, unfortunately, as they're taking a lot longer than usual in this release cycle.

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This thread (well what it is currently discussing) reminds me of when the first VPN protocol wars happened. Well I think it was the VPN Protocol wars...I can't remember at the moment what it actually was but lets just ay it was VPN for the sake of argument (although it probably wasn't ). Well anyway companies said ok we will just shut that port down for that vital protocol...so cisco said...ok we will make this then use port 80. Long story short...and I think I lost my point somewhere in the story...ports don't really matter security wise or something of that matter....and yes I now am sure I have no clue where this story is going . So back to work for me .

No more sugar for you!

[Mike]

Steadfast was my first experience with H-Sphere as well. Luckily, I wasn't much of a CPanel or Plesk fan when I was using them, so I pretty much liked H-Sphere better as soon as I logged in.

I think many that demand CPanel aren't doing it out of preference, but rather out of familiarity. Some people just don't want to learn anything new, whether it's better or not. There's also the convenience of CPanel for host-hoppers that can't seem to find the right host, since it's pretty much everywhere.

[Kevin]

There's also the convenience of CPanel for host-hoppers that can't seem to find the right host, since it's pretty much everywhere.

It's notable that cPanel has a well-known backup format as well. You can get yourself an account backup and have ANY host running cPanel, Plesk, InterWorx, H-Sphere, or any number of other control panels import your account right back in.

[adb22791]

We're definitely aware that the WebShell file manager needs some love. There are some updates in the pipeline which should come with version 3.0 of H-Sphere. I'm hoping those will resolve the majority of issues. I don't know exactly how far off the release is, unfortunately, as they're taking a lot longer than usual in this release cycle.

I think we're looking at about 6 months before we will all get a version that is stable enough to upgrade production boxes to. Another thing about 3.0 is it forces MySQL 5, which is great for probably 90% of my clients, but I know there are some that will need a lot of work done to be ready for that upgrade.

It doesn't seem like it would be too trivial to be able to create a second MySQL Logical Server for MySQL 4, but psoft apparently isn't interested in doing that. Go figure.


Alex

[Kevin]

It doesn't seem like it would be too trivial to be able to create a second MySQL Logical Server for MySQL 4, but psoft apparently isn't interested in doing that. Go figure.

Igor told me that they're pushing MySQL 5 out because MySQL has EOLed 4.0 and 4.1, so there will be no further security or bug fix releases for that line. Control Panels like iworx and plesk use the built-in OS releases for MySQL, so they'll continue to be supported by their OS vendors for the life cycle of the OS.

cPanel has switched new installs to MySQL 5 already and if you upgrade you're not permitted to go back. P-Soft seems to generally prefer not allowing people to lag behind with software updates, though with the new system, you can set up the hspackages step in the upgrader to exclude the MySQL 5 update indefinitely if you want to.

The upgrade to MySQL 5.0 is not going to be nearly the headache that MySQL 4.0 -> 4.1 was, and that all-in-all didn't end up being terrible. The worst issue we had involved a few customers who had ISAM databases, which 4.1 binaries don't support any longer in favor of MyISAM, so we had to convert them on another system after the upgrade.